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PostSubject: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:04 am

2 swipes per turn

you can swipe as much as you can as long as you know the queue of players (rotation)

please be considerate so everyone can play


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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:08 am

sana walang magpost dito ng mga one liner sana naman medyo seryoso tayo dito
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:10 am

Guys, please post here, and give us your HONEST opinion. Ran nor I will not eat you alive if we reject your opinions. Your suggestions will also help make it better for the Technika community.

Post here your honest comments/suggestions/opinions. We'd be happy to hear them.

Btw, Ran, please add yung 2 per turn Smile.



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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:11 am

so kelan pwede maglalaro si Player E kung tapos na si Player D?

baket dalawa pa ang list? pwede namang isang list then corresponding number of swipes (1-4) on the right side of their name.
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:16 am

So meaning to say:
e.g (1st rotation)
Dude A: 4 credits
Dude B: 4 credits
Dude C: 4 credits
Dude D: 4 credits
total 16 credits
e2 mga tanong ko....
-pag dumating si Dude E at si Dude B pa lng ang naglalaro... kailangan muna matapos ung 1st rotation bago makapagswipe si Dude E?
-sakaling natapos na maglaro si Dude A... Kailangan muna matapos si Dude D bago makapagswipe ulet si Dude A?
(sorry for the noobish questions ah)
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:16 am

Wenwen^ hindi lang medyo seryoso. SERYOSO talaga dapat.

I'm sure everyone knows the chaos that may ensue when it comes to T2. C'mon, we only have one machine atm..

Players getting organized about the queuing system is supposed to be mandatory.

We took the initiative to implement this rule to make it easier for everyone (and of course, to give everyone equal chances of playing this much-awaited game.)

Please post your suggestions if you want modifications to this rule. Smile

thank you. :3
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:16 am

makotoken wrote:
so kelan pwede maglalaro si Player E kung tapos na si Player D?

baket dalawa pa ang list? pwede namang isang list then corresponding number of swipes (1-4) on the right side of their name.

para ma track down kung paano ang takbo ng pila
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:20 am

@Ran: Magprint ka na ng logsheets =))


Hmm Try ko ipa-visualize.

Player A: 2
Player B: 2
*AY MAY DUMATING NA PLAYER E...So palalaruin muna siya*
Player E: 2
Player C: 2
Player D: 2
Player A: Last 2...
Player B: Last 2...
Player C: Last 2...
Player D: Last 2...
Player E: Last 2...


Ganyan.

Ngayon."Bakit kailangan gawing ganyan????? Parang mga tanga lang kayo di na lang basta listahan at pila"
Sino bang hindi tatabangan na pagdating niya may 30+ credits? Syempre, para yan makalaro na yung bagong dating agad. AND at the same time, assured ka na makakalaro ka pa ulit. Lahat naman tayo sanay na rin sa hintayan, pero since technika 2 to, kailangan ayusin ng onti dahil kasabik-sabik talaga ito :>


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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:21 am

neilcullado wrote:

-pag dumating si Dude E at si Dude B pa lng ang naglalaro... kailangan muna matapos ung 1st rotation bago makapagswipe si Dude E?
oo pero pwede na mag swipe si player E
neilcullado wrote:

-sakaling natapos na maglaro si Dude A... Kailangan muna matapos si Dude D bago makapagswipe ulet si Dude A?
(sorry for the noobish questions ah)

pwede na mag swipe uli basta maubos na ni dude A lahat ng 4 na credit nya
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:23 am

Here's just my side on the "new player situation" :

EXAMPLE SITUATION:
(1)Current queue: A,A,B,C,C,D,E,E,A,A,B,B,C,E,E (15 in machine)

Let's say A has finished his first two games, and B has finished his game..
(2)QUEUE: C,C,D,E,E,A,A,B,B,C,E,E (12 in machine)

Player F comes during Player C's FIRST play, and puts one credit in. This will result in this queue (following Ran's procedure):
(3a)NEW QUEUE: C,C,D,E,E,A,A,B,B,C,E,E,(F)


This, however for me, will take F a longer time before he can even play his "first" game. Provided that he has to wait for E to finish 4 TURNS (whereas they are only supposed to be playing 2 before your turn), here's the order I propose:
(3b)NEW QUEUE: C,C,D,E,E,A,A,B,B,(F),C,E,E

This explains that F can immediately go right before C's 2nd set of credits. This would then mean that C can finish up his game, but his third credit in the queue will be considered "not officially in the turn queue" because he's really only allowed to have two in the turn.

What do you guys think?

(if you guys don't understand, please tell me, I'll make a flash animation to make this more understandable)
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:29 am

@fenrir, ok siya kaso think about the noobs and the players who doesn't know the queuing rule.

AABBBBCCCDD

player E arrives

AABBBBCCCDDEE

that's the old rule na it still works.



[EDIT]
read steph's edited post. gets ko na. pero ang tanong, willing ba magpasingit si player C at D after ni player B?

sa atin okay ang rule na ito. pero di lang naman tayo ang naglalaro nito eh. magtataka yung other players kung baket nagpapasingit.


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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:32 am

makotoken wrote:
@fenrir, ok siya kaso think about the noobs and the players who doesn't know the queuing rule.

AABBBBCCCDD

player E arrives

AABBBBCCCDDEE

that's the old rule na it still works.

1. B and C can only play at max twice. They will have to consume those credits at the end of the line.
2. The point here is when may 3-4 credits ang ilang players. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:33 am

NVM.


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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:33 am

maganda plano to kaso medyo confusing lang sa simula at kailangan ipaliwanag sa bawat taong maglalaro >.<
un ung hard part. kasi ibang playas makukulit. xD

dapat may listahan na talaga Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:33 am

@fafa charles magulo nga

@makokotoken

basta hindi muna maglalaro si player E kapag sa gitna sya ng rotation dumating
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:36 am

@fenrir, okay nakuha ko na. read my edited post kanina Very Happy

so the rule only applies to people with 3 to 4 credits? ayus ah. pero yun nga kung willing. read my edited post kanina Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:38 am

okay. I'm about to suggest something na baka ika-inis ng iba pero here it goes.


2 swipes per person in a line/queue. Isang listahan na lang. Wala ng reserves para walang away at walang samaan ng loob.


Magswipe na lang agad pagkatapos. Magulo na masyado. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:39 am

Hmm imay naisip pa akong isa pang issue:

If we're limited to 2 per turn, do we really have to put 2 more in ADVANCE? I don't know, but it's not that hard to take out your TZ card to swipe TWO more times after your two credits have been used up.

From the looks of the current system kasi, for me, it STILL looks like 4 in queue for the newcomer.



EDIT: After reading Steph's post above:

Exactly my point. Advanced swiping is NOT necessary, because we can always take our card out right AFTER way play and swipe our next two.... and we can do it the same time as we keep our Datacard (diba para LESS chances mawala?)

Kasi, the more credits there are in queue, the higher chances may mawala (yes, kahit may listahan, minsan may mga credits pang nawawala)


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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:40 am

+1 on miss steph's idea Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:41 am

Ba't di na lang kasi talaga 1 credit per person. I very well know that we can't implement the card queueing system here dahil may mga malilikot ang kamay. Pero pwede rin naman nating tong i-implement sa listahan.

1 credit per person. Hanggat di mo nagagamit ang credit mo, hindi ka pwedeng maglagay ng bago. Pagkatapos mong maglaro, saka ka ulit magswipe. This is the most effective way I can see. Mas mabilis makakalaro ang isang nakapila.
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:43 am

I suggest a "post-it note" yung blue para makita agad na ididikit sa swiper (wag pink or green kasi kasing kulay iyon ng machine at ng swiper)
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:51 am

makotoken wrote:
I suggest a "post-it note" yung blue para makita agad na ididikit sa swiper (wag pink or green kasi kasing kulay iyon ng machine at ng swiper)

or pwede din na ilagay mismo sa swiper para alam na agad yun yung list Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:52 am

@X10SV

Yeah, that's actually what I was proposing back then. ONE per person per turn lang (pareho sa Singapore and other countries). Though I push for it, Ran says that it might not favor new players who keep failing songs.

@makotoken

It's too small, and "maybe" not many players will approach the machine THAT close to just take a glance at it.


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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:52 am

Fenrir wrote:
Hmm imay naisip pa akong isa pang issue:
If we're limited to 2 per turn, do we really have to put 2 more in ADVANCE? I don't know, but it's not that hard to take out your TZ card to swipe TWO more times after your two credits have been used up.

di lahat kasi pare pareho ng gusto yung iba gusto kung ano nakasanayan na ganun lang yun
option nyo naman din maglimit ng 2 swipes basta ang sinasabi ko MAXIMUM


kaya nga natin ginagawa to para fair sa lahat
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PostSubject: Re: Queuing system!   Queuing system! Icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 11:53 am

@X10SV:

The one swipe per person rule is quite unfair to new/inexperienced players. What if they fail the song after a short while? Does that mean they have to wait for their turn again? The two swipe rule (as explained by Steph) is the most effective mode of queuing imho.

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